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SL: Well, you did have to make some sacrifices for your craft, like the story in Shock Value about you dying your hair flaming red for Pink Flamingos and having to wear a wig to your day jobMink: Oh, that’s a little bit of a distortion. I had the wig.
John bought me the wig because originally in the movie, I was going to set my hair on fire and I told him I would do itwhy I ever said that, I don’t know. I did say I would do it and he bought me the wig so that I would be able to have hair after I became bald. As the time approached to actually do that scene – the way he explained it to me was I would sit in a chair, there would be someone behind me with a match and another person with a bucket of water.
This was our stunt crew – it wasn’t going to be a professional stunt person or special effects person, it was just going to be someone who wasn’t busy that day. And so, I panicked. I said that the actor in me thinks it would be a wonderful scene – and I was not supposed to react, I was supposed to let my hair get set on fire and not react to it. I knew there was not a prayer in hell that I could do this. I said, “I just really can’t do this” – and that was what the wig was for. I wore it every now and then, and there’s a picture of me called “Mink in her ‘straight’ look” but it’s not quite accurate.SL: So what was the greatest sacrifice you had to make as an actress in John Waters’ films?Mink: Well, actually in Pink Flamingos, those were all my own clothes.
And everything I wore in that movie was destroyed. And that was hard for me because some of them were priceless thrift shop finds!
They didn’t cost much but they were beautiful. And they were just totally trashed, so that was tough. But, other than that, there haven’t really been sacrifices. Aside from them agreeing to set my hair on fire, John never asked me to do anything dangerous. Divine had to do a lot of stuff that was really dangerous – and did it.
I was never asked to do anythingI had to be cold. For me it certainly wasn’t dangerous, it was just uncomfortable.SL: What was it like working with Divine?Mink: Oh, I loved working with Divine! Divine was totally professional, (he was) certainly as committed as I was, if not more, to every role that he played.
I loved doing scenes with him because he was so focused – and he was focused on the scene and not on his own camera angles or anything like that – so when we did scenes together, we really connected and it shows in the scenes we had – it shows how connected we were. He was lovely to work with.I also got to work with Divine on stage too.
We both worked with the Cockettes in the early 70s – I was never an official member of the troupe, but I did work on the show. Divine worked on a couple of shows with them and I did a show with the Cockettes and Divine called Vice Palace that was an amazing production. We did it Halloween weekend of ’72. It was a huge extravaganza and it was very well received and it was a thrill to work on. We did another play together in San Francisco right around the same time where we played old women.
It was a reworking of a play called “Ladies in Retirement”, but I can’t remember what we called it. Divine played an old woman who had, I think, either a stone or a seashell collection. It was just wonderful watching him work.
He was really talented – he was a really good actor, so I always enjoyed working with him. Mink Stole attends The Academy Presents “Hairspray” (1988) 30th Anniversary at Samuel Goldwyn Theater on July 23, 2018 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Getty Images)SL: You’ve performed on stage, in movies and now you’re singing. What has been the most rewarding for you (what have you enjoyed most)?Mink: Right now, I have to say it’s the music because it’s something that I’ve kind of created on my own and it’s a “later in life” passion. Nothing makes me happier than being in this grungy little rehearsal studio with my band. It’s when I’m actually really happy – and we’re working on something and if it’s not sounding right, we tinker with it and then we make it sound better.I find it just amazingly fun and incredibly gratifying.
I’m going to be doing a play as part of the Tennessee Williams festival in Provincetown in September. I love all forms of entertaining, but being myself on a stage, doing my one-woman show and my Christmas show with the band, it’s just it’s more liberating than I can even tell you.
It’s really fun.SL: Tell me a little bit more about the CD you’re working on.Mink: Do-Re-MiNK is the working title for it and it’s basically a collection of songs that I’ve been working on for several years. Many of them I’ve performed before, actually I’ve performed just about all of them, but some of them I’ve been performing for years, others are newer. I’m calling it “a memoir of my life in songs written by other people”. I don’t write songs, I’m not really good at it, and I know too many people who do it well. It’s an eclectic CD. My voice is soft, I’m not a rocker.
I wouldn’t put myself in the jazz singer category, because I don’t think I’ve earned that. I aspire to it, but don’t think I’m quite there yet. My drummer likes to call it “cabaret jazz”. If you go on my band page on Facebook, you can hear a cut – it’s called “Sometimes I Wish I Had a Gun”. It’s actually been released – John Waters put it on his “A Date with John Waters” compilation disc a few years ago, but I am going to include it on the album because I just love it and it’s never had its own release.
You can get an idea of the kind of music it is from that. SL: I have to ask, since I’m in the midst of interviewing the cast of Drag U – I know you worked with RuPaul on But I’m a Cheerleader – do you have any Ru stories you can share?Mink: I love RuPaul! You know, I met Ru on that movie and I’ve always just found him to be an absolutely delightful, charming person.
I’ve never worked with him as “RuPaul” (his drag persona). He has the best looking legs of any human in the world! Absolutely spectacular legs and he’s always been perfectly delightful and charming to me but I rarely see him. I really don’t see him much and I don’t watch his show because I don’t get cable.
I’ve cut my TV viewing down to almost nothing. But (Ru’s) a lovely person and he loves his family. When we were both living in Los Angeles, he would invite me to his home for parties and he was always surrounded by his family – and I love the fact that his family was so supportive and that they were so affectionate. He’s always been perfectly lovely to me. I’ve never worked with the 8-foot-tall RuPaul – I’d love to though, I think he’s fabulous!
Actor John Travolta (L), director John Waters and actress Mink Stole pose at the afterparty for the premiere of New Line’s “Hairspray” in Ackerman Hall at UCLA on July 10, 2007 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)SL: You should be a judge on RuPaul’s Drag Race!Mink: Wouldn’t that be fun! I’d be happy to do it.SL: Well, you’re a regular on Logo, thanks to your role in the Eating Out moviesMink: They are so much fun! I really enjoy being a part of those, they are adorable little romps. I’m not their target audience – not being a gay male – but they’re adorable and they’re so funny. If they weren’t funny they’d almost be porn. But because they’re so clever and they’re so funny, they’re really enjoyable on a completely different level.
They are full of very good looking young men – they gave me one in the last (movie)! I got my own very good looking young man to play with – Aunt Helen got lucky! (Laughs)SL: I know you called your CD a musical memoir, but would you ever take pen to paper and actually write your autobiography?Mink: I think about it periodically and it’s mentioned to me periodicallyI can write and I do write on occasion – I used to write an advice column. It’s really hard work – writing is probably the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. It’s harder than the music, it’s harder than acting, it’s harder than anything I’ve ever done and it’s not that I wouldn’t do it, it’s that I haven’t been able to go,” Okay, now it’s time.” I still think there’s stuff I have to do first.
I think part of it is that I have to convince myself that I’m interesting, which sounds really lame, but I was talking to a friend about it not too long ago and he said, “you already know all of your stories”. You know to me, they’re just old hat. But yes, one day, I will probably do it.SL: What else is on the horizon for you besides the CD?Mink: That’s pretty much it. Like I said, I will be doing this play in Provincetown in September for the Tennessee Williams festival. I believe it’s called Now The Cats with Jewelled Claws.
It’s an obscure, late in life-written play and I don’t think it’s performed very often. The nice thing about it is that I’m going to be working with Everett Quinton and I worked with him back in the early 80s when we were both working with Charles Ludlam at the Ridiculous Theatrical Company in New York. I think he’s Everett Equality Quinton now, he’s part of that Facebook group that is using “Equality” as a middle name. It will be really nice to get back together with Everett and it will also be wonderful to be in Provincetown for a little while. And we may also do the play at La Mama in New York, but that’s as yet up in the air. It would be wonderful, I would love it.
I haven’t done theater in New York in quite a long time and it would be really great to go back and do that. (If you want to see Mink in Provincetown, get your tickets here.) Mink Stole attends The Academy Presents “Hairspray” (1988) 30th Anniversary at Samuel Goldwyn Theater on July 23, 2018 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Getty Images)SL: I have to ask, what is the appeal of living in Baltimore?Mink: Well, I live on the street that I grew up on. I live across the street from my childhood home – the home I was brought home from the hospital to. Three years ago, we sold it after my mother died. My roots are very, very deep in this neighborhood and it’s actually a beautiful little neighborhood – it’s in a time warp. Visually it’s changed almost not at all since I was a child – the trees are taller, this one painted the porch, this one added a deck but, other than that, it’s just exactly the same and it’s just a delightful little area.
I wanted to get out of LA – I love LA but I wanted to leave and when I was thinking about places to go, it just suddenly dawned on me that after 30 years of not living in Baltimore, that maybe it was a good idea to come back – and I did. I found this wonderful apartment and I’ve just been very happy here. The man who lives behind me, I’ve known since I was a child. The boy who lived next door to me now lives around the corner. There are people who have known me since I was a small child and then there are other people who have known me since I was a teenager and started working with John, so I have two whole sets of connections – plus I have a sister here and a brother here. Baltimore’s a great place to be based.
If I never left town, it would probably get kind small. It would be entirely too claustrophobic if I never got to leave – but I do leave. I go to LA, I go to New York and I was just in Florida not too long ago so I get to move around a lot.
It has a good airport that I can get to easily, so it’s easy to get in and out. It has trains. It’s a great place. I come home and it’s quiet – it’s so quiet here. On a summer night, all you hear is crickets. So after years in NY and LA, it’s very calm here.
I have a group of women I get together with once a month, I crochet, they knit and hook rugs I have a very small, quiet life here that I get to come and go from. It’s really terrific. It works very well for me.
SL: Will you be touring after the CD comes out?Mink: Oh God, I hope so! I certainly hope so. That’s a plan, but until we get the CD done, I can’t make any specific plans but yes, I certainly want to. It’s going to be a little difficult to figure out how we’re going to do (a tour) because we’re talking about an upright bass. My bass player is absolutely incredible so it’s not something I’d be wanting to dispense with. We’ll just have to seebut I certainly hope so because I love being on stage with my band. It’s fun, you know, I started being in a band when I was in my fifties.
And when people would ask, “Don’t you feel like you’re a little too old to be doing this?” the answer to that is “Well, how old will I be next year if I don’t?” It makes me feel very young and vital.SL: Are you surprised that all of the movies you made with John still have such an enormous fan following?Mink: You know, I got an email not too long ago from a man who had just had Connie Marble’s picture tattooed on his arm and he wrote to me saying he was going to do it and then he did it – and on that same arm was a picture of Divine. And I’m thinking this is 40 years ago that we made that movie and it still has such an impact that somebody is willing to permanently put it on his body staggers me! It humbles me and inflates me at the same time, I kind of really don’t know how to deal with it.
It thrills me, but it’s like, “Are you nuts?” In a way, I’m kind of used to it – but by that, I don’t mean to imply that I’m indifferent to it because I’m not. I think it’s really extraordinary and I feel every now and then so amazed that I was lucky enough to be part of something so absolutely amazing. Of course, at the time, there was no way to know that this would be the case – and it’s a good thing because I would have been entirely too nervous.SL: They couldn’t make movies like those today.Mink: Well, they wouldn’t have the same impact. You know, there are so many horror movies out now, there’s so much blood, there’s so much gore. It’s very hard to shock people now. We’re so jaded – we see people blown up on TV every day so it’s impossible to shock people anymore.
Actors Queen Latifah (L) and Mink Stole pose at the afterparty for the premiere of New Line’s “Hairspray” in Ackerman Hall at UCLA on July 10, 2007 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)As far as the enduring popularity of John’s movies, I am thrilled by it and I’m humbled by it at the same time. I don’t live like a movie star – I live a very simple life. Here in Baltimore occasionally someone will come up to me and tell me they like my work – which is very nice – it’s lovely to have that happen. But I was watching the footage of Justin Bieber yesterday and I thought, “How could somebody actually live like that?” To be unable to perform your everyday chores – I guess if you’re Justin Bieber, other people do them for you – but what an amazingly restricted way to live. I would not like it.
I’ve never had the opportunity to say, “Well, I don’t know.” I’ve never been offered that lifestyle so I don’t know that I wouldn’t like it if I had it but I think I wouldn’t.We thank Mink so very much for chatting with us! You can follow Mink on Twitter , Facebook and on her own website. And, if you want to pledge your support for, visit her page on Kickstarter!debuted back in 2003. As a tribute to the thousands of articles that we’ve published over the years, we have reached back into our vault to bring you this, that showcases some of our favorite posts.
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It had started with Naomi Osaka with the 15-year-old Coco Gauff.The women’s graciousness to one another while at the same time competing fiercely demonstrates their recognition that there is no finite pie of power — by sharing it they all had more.Tennis fans got their money’s worth of drama. Meanwhile, fans nostalgic for the television series “Friends” are having a month-long opportunity to revisit their favorite characters.This month marks the of its first show.
New Yorkers will even get to visit a of Central Perk and buy “Friends ” merch.I went to drop off some of my deservedly famous green chili stew to, who famously played “Friends ” character father Charles, a transgender woman performing in a Las Vegas drag show, when she told me that she was planning to attend a cast reunion.Kathleen is a great friend, and she loved the irony of playing Charles.You might know Kathleen Turner from her starring roles in blockbuster films like Body Heat, War of the Roses, or Serial Mom. Or from her lauded stage performances such as Mrs.
Robinson in The Graduate, Martha in Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf. Possibly you’ve seen her as television cameo characters like Chandler’s father or, more recently, an ex-wife on the “.” You might even have recognized her iconic voice as the feminist doll maker Stacy Lavelle in “The Simpsons.” The woman never stops working.A few years ago, I had the privilege of writing the book with Kathleen, about her life and leading roles. Each chapter has specific lessons or messages that Kathleen wanted to give — in fact, she said to me at the outset that her purpose for the book would not be the typical celebrity tell all, but to share what she’d learned that would be useful to other women.Here are three of my favorites from among the leadership lessons I learned from Kathleen.
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And while watching the Open, I saw these in action among the female players.Be essential in any role you play.About being essential, Kathleen says,“One thing that has always been important to me throughout my career is this: Every character I play has to be necessary to the story. In other words, if the story would make sense without that character, then I won’t play her. She must be essential.”To me, as someone who had given my life to a cause and had allowed myself to be subsumed by it, the thought of embracing this level of intention hit me like a ton of bricks because it is so very true, and it is informing my current focus on the power of intention.2. Don’t repeat your successes.This one really got me thinking about how most of us focus on trying to get better and better at one thing we do or aspire to do and rarely are deliberate about taking up or taking on something completely out of our wheelhouse. But Kathleen calls herself a serial risk taker, a nod to her role in John Waters’ weird film, Serial Mom. It’s an accurate description of how she chooses roles. She doesn’t want to be typecast.
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That keeps her options open for the next role.It’s why after playing the sultry, sexy, scheming Matty in Body Heat, she deliberately sought a comedic role and played Delores against ’s classic The Man With Two Brains. After that, the mousy and shy Joan Wilder in Romancing the Stone. She says, “I take risks not just for the thrill — though I do enjoy the thrill — but for the learningRisk is the willingness to fail.”Kathleen and I spent about six months working on the book at a time in my life when I was most vulnerable, having left an intense 30-year career that had defined my life and shaped how people thought of me. Learning about how Kathleen had intentionally chosen to do completely different roles freed me to do the same. As a matter of fact, writing the book where I was telling another person’s story was a huge stretch for me and something I had never done before.
There was magic in getting completely outside of my comfort zone. I doubt that I would have cofounded without this idea. I was certainly not repeating my successes. Banish the yet.Kathleen lived in countries around the world until her father, who was in the foreign service and whom she very much loved and admired, died suddenly when she was 17. I think that early experience with a shocking loss must have instilled within her a sense that you can’t wait to do or be what you think you want.“Turner is a verb,” she says. She observes that many people will refrain from taking a risk or taking a stand because they feel they aren’t ready, don’t yet know enough, aren’t old or wealthy enough yet, and so on. But, she says,“That yet is a thief.
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It can rob you of yourself in the moment. ‘Yet’ means you are going to make a contribution someday. But each of us has so much to give right now.”I love that advice — it’s so true. And if leaders don’t model that penchant for action, others in our team may well hold back too.I’ll share much more about these three leadership lessons next week on my, Take The Lead Women.
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